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coffeesp00ns  ·  3786 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Hubski Update: Hush and fare thee well

I've always wondered why people would want something like a "hush" function or a silence, or whatever. Don't like someone's opinion? talk about it like civil human beings (i.e. without resorting to name-calling or aggressive tone), or just don't look at it. Share the content you think should be shared, and don't share things you don't think should be shared. If something is highly shared but conflicts with your world view, maybe look at it as a reason to revisit your opinion to strengthen or change your opinion.

But then again maybe I'm looking at it incorrectly.





ButterflyEffect  ·  3786 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree with you, I have no intention of using the hush feature. If somebody is truly being destructive or anything of that sort I'll just mute/ignore them. As far as somebody being borderline, I'd rather try to see their views out than hush them.

That said, I also understand where mk is coming from and can appreciate this approach.

mk  ·  3786 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    If somebody is truly being destructive or anything of that sort I'll just mute/ignore them.

Unfortunately, muting only works on your posts, and ignoring only hides their posts, but not their comments. I wish that we didn't need such granularity, but it seems unavoidable.

ButterflyEffect  ·  3786 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ah, okay I misunderstood ignoring then. I thought it worked on comments too.

That may prove to be useful information, thanks for clearing up my apparent confusion.

mk  ·  3786 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I admit it is confusing. I recently added an about link under the buttons on a user's profile.

Ignore did previously sort comments to the bottom. However, personally speaking, I'd like to be able to hush someone's comments without hiding all of their posts.

mk  ·  3786 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree that your approach is best. That said, the comment section is the one place on Hubski where curation is shared rather than individualized. As a result, there is the possibility that in the future the overall comment sort will suffer from a lowest-common-denominator effect.

There are a number of approaches that we could take with this, but each brings complications. What I find attractive about this approach, is its simplicity, and its unobtrusiveness.

It is likely that we will have to experiment to see what works best. However, I do feel that the site can benefit if the comment sort isn't simply a reflection of the average opinion. But we will see if that is true, and if it can be realized.

_refugee_  ·  3786 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Don't like someone's opinion?

I feel like this is a narrow approach to the vast array of comment-types you can see.

    talk about it like civil human beings (i.e. without resorting to name-calling or aggressive tone)

In addition, that's not always possible. It takes two. If I don't like (for example) your comment, and try to call you out on it, and you respond aggressively, even if I've attempted to do so in a friendly manner, clearly we have failed this parameter.

Moreover, sometimes an aggressive tone is - well, necessary.

    Share the content you think should be shared, and don't share things you don't think should be shared. If something is highly shared but conflicts with your world view

This has nothing to do with hush or the hush functionality. Hush only works on comments. - I consider "sharing" to be the action that places a link/article/whatever in my feed. I understand that technically we "share" comments, I guess, but it feels like a different action to me. If someone "shares" a comment I'm still not forced to see it necessarily. Moreover when someone "shares" a comment it does not matter if I follow them or not - as opposed to my feed which I can curate by only following certain people.

Revisiting my first comment, I think "hush" will be used, at least for me personally, not because I dislike someone's opinions but because I am not impressed with the quality of their comments. If you make a pun response - not responding to the original content or not in any depth, but just see an opportunity to make a pun, or a song reference, or so on - I'm probably hushing you. It's not worth it to tell that person "Hey I think your comment's quality is subpar and you should step it up" in my opinion, but it is worth it to have that person sorted to the bottom of the thread even if a ton of other people think that shithead's funny, because I know I won't. "Hush," "ignore," and "mute" are not necessarily about dissenting opinions. In my mind they are more about filtering through what could become a giant morass of stupidity.

mk  ·  3786 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    If you make a pun response - not responding to the original content or not in any depth, but just see an opportunity to make a pun, or a song reference, or so on - I'm probably hushing you.

If a user has a habit of doing that, that's when I'll use it. I love reading thoughtful comments that I disagree with, maybe even more than ones I agree with. I'll use hush to target banality.